Curse

Resident · Apr 13, 2008, 07:28 AM // 07:28

Well, perma shadow form is around for i dont know how many months... Since factions maybe

Even wiki mentions it. The other 5 skills are totally up to you.

Abedeus · Apr 13, 2008, 09:14 AM // 09:14

Resident, lies. Perma Shadow has been in-game since Nightfall came out, but people started using it after a month or two.

Resident · Apr 13, 2008, 10:39 AM // 10:39

Sorry, right, I thought Deadly paradox is a factions skill

Whatever, its still an old trick

monk of the godss · Apr 13, 2008, 11:38 AM // 11:38

So does cry of frustration actually work instead of cry of pain? Or something else perhaps?

My Lipgloss is Cool · Apr 13, 2008, 11:45 AM // 11:45

Cry of Frustration might work, but the damage is so much lower that it will take much longer, and you have to hit a skill with it, so you can't just spam it.

The.D0pefish · Apr 13, 2008, 12:01 PM // 12:01

i would take wandering eye instead of cry of pain.
Cry of Frustration needs to interrupt smth. to do dmg

Wandering eye will do more dmg and is on the same attribute line as clumsiness.

Resident · Apr 13, 2008, 12:14 PM // 12:14

I still stick with viper's defense. 21sec poison ftw (unless you meet the not fleshy ones...) Aatxes have 3pipe of regen, it just stops it. Btw, is charged blackness fleshy? Mindblades?

The.D0pefish · Apr 13, 2008, 12:27 PM // 12:27

Charged blackness are from the same "race" as the graspings and mindblades aren't fleshy

So both shouldn't be affected by poison.

Resident · Apr 13, 2008, 12:29 PM // 12:29

Ok, bye bye Viper's defense then... Its useful against the aatxes though...

Keira Nightgale · Apr 13, 2008, 08:32 PM // 20:32

lucky drops, I did topk a lot back then and ecto drops always sucked (not talking about the golds wich rarely are anything worth), I'll stick to my ritu build able to kill smiters in less than 5 secs, drops sux but it's fun. Btw almost perma shadow form is obtainable by dervishes as well.

ReZDoGG · Apr 13, 2008, 11:25 PM // 23:25

hmmm who removed my replies?

Dark Tykane · Apr 13, 2008, 11:31 PM // 23:31

Once again,
does anyone have any tips or a way that i can make sure to get perfect timing on SF every time? right now i can hardly do it once.

Marverick · Apr 14, 2008, 01:18 AM // 01:18

So do you guys think the perma-Shadow Form will get nerfed anytime soon? I'm considering making a Sin for this; however, I know people are complaining about how this is abused in HA, and this might be too easy of a farm like the old SoA was, perhaps even easier, and thus get nerfed.

Arkantos · Apr 14, 2008, 01:23 AM // 01:23

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Originally Posted by ReZDoGG

hmmm who removed my replies?

I did. Stop bitching about people releasing builds to the public. If you don't like it, fine. Don't start posting in threads yelling "OMG NOW ANET GUNA NERF DIS!!11". I'm getting annoyed with you doing it.

That goes for everyone. Don't post if all you're going to do is cry nerf.

Fuzzy Taco · Apr 14, 2008, 02:14 AM // 02:14

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Originally Posted by Dark Tykane

Once again,
does anyone have any tips or a way that i can make sure to get perfect timing on SF every time? right now i can hardly do it once.

Practice makes perfect.

well done on the guide - if i had a sin, this is what he'd be doing.

as far as the nerfbat goes, i highly doubt this is going to get hit. it's very ping-reliant, as well as being unable to hit smites and not being amazingly fast.

ReZDoGG · Apr 14, 2008, 04:42 AM // 04:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arkantos

I did. Stop bitching about people releasing builds to the public. If you don't like it, fine. Don't start posting in threads yelling "OMG NOW ANET GUNA NERF DIS!!11". I'm getting annoyed with you doing it.

That goes for everyone. Don't post if all you're going to do is cry nerf.

Damn, chill out. Was only stating my opinion, no need to get your panties all in a bunch. I don't know why you had to remove my replies, especially my 2nd and 3rd one. I was actually letting in what I been doing with a similar build, and what skill set I used. But in a way im glad you removed it. Thanks.

Arkantos · Apr 14, 2008, 04:45 AM // 04:45

Sorry, but nobody wants to hear your opinion if it's non sense QQing over farming builds.

But enough derailing the thread.

Anyways, I like running this similar build:

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Originally Posted by ReZdoGG

Shadow Arts: 16
Inspiration: 12
Deadly Arts: 3-4

Deadly Paradox
Shadowform
Arcane Echo
Radiation Field
Cry of Pain
Spirit of Failure
Mindbender
Auspicious Incantation

Mindbender and Auspicious can make all the difference in the build. Mindbender is a two in one skill, half casting of all spells, and a running skill to top it off. It helps alot when you need to use echo sf again. Auspicious is meant to be used for Arcane Echo to give you +27 energy so your energy will be mostly full after a
using DP, Echo, SF. Just before you need echo, and everything Arcane Echo is just about recharged, hit Mindbender, then Auspicious, DP, Arcane Echo, SF... and you should have plenty of energy. I also have max asuran and sunspear titles, so that helps alot with using Radiation and Cry of Pain only. Mindbender also helps give you acouple extra seconds of your timings, so room for error. I can keep up SF aslong as I need it for farmin, I usually never let SF wear off and mindbender definately helps that alot. The longest I kept SF up for was for over an hour straight, as I don't take any chances with low health in UW. It is also best to use it in Normal Mode in UW, since they will run away in HM. I also farm all the Bladed in the area, then run to Chaos Plains, even though running there ain't always successful but worth the try if you make it.

Thanks for sharing, ReZdoGG. Very nice of you.

jbwarrior · Apr 14, 2008, 07:57 AM // 07:57

Very nicely done

Wished I didn't remove my Sin

Started again.. lvl 13 ATM

Keira Nightgale · Apr 14, 2008, 12:18 PM // 12:18

Honestly I see no incoming nerf (touch deadly paradox again, archane echo?) if they wanted to nerf this they could have done it ages ago ( if u ever watched a perma shadow form sin in RA u could have come up with this build, so it's most likely anet already knew this build), they could lower drop rates (wich are kinda low already) which I doubt. I remember a guy ingame suggesting to nerf shadow form chains by making Shadow form add exhaustion.

Resident · Apr 14, 2008, 03:22 PM // 15:22

Well, im somewhat an experienced uw farmer but this build is far from the effectiveness of a 55/SS or even a 600/smite in HM. In fact it's slow and you can f*ck it up pretty easily even with mindbender and auspicious. Sure it is fun but the old ways of farming is far more effective cause you can't farm smites with this build. (Smite hex, Smite condition rulz) Running to the chaos planes is as reliable with this build as it is with the E/Mo one.
The only thing why i like this build cause I can take revenge on the Aatxes